Shalom (peace) v'brachot (N blessings) chaverim (my friends)
Would you please introduce yourself in the group so that I might have some background information? This would reveal where you are coming from concerning head covering and modesty. Please feel free to ask questions because I can remember when I started considering head covering I had many myself. For those who already wear the head covering please feel free to share your experience and information. It will be such a blessing to get to know each of you and to know about your journey.
Shalom and Blessings
Sister Tehillayah (Lilly)
Group Rules
Colossians 3:17
17And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the Name of the Master Yahushua, giving thanks to Elohim the Father through Him.
Shalom Aleichem
We now have a moderator, Sister Gabriela Harrold , for the group who will assist as I continue to recover. Toda rabah Sister Gabriela for accepting this position. As I prayed and thought about this group these were some of the issues that felt needed to be covered.
1. This is a PRO-HEADCOVERING group and if you are anti-head covering then please be aware of this fact. If you hold an anti head covering stance and want to debate the issue then please be aware that you can start a group in favor of your position. To coerce anyone is not my objective.
The intended goal is to supply information so that a rational decision can be made based on what you have read and studied for yourself. When a person is coerced, forced, made to feel guilty, or made to submit either way then it is not a free will decision and becomes a meaningless burden ultimately viewed with contempt.
2. Because of the diversified opinions concerning head covering and modesty; contention, arguing, debating, or antagonistic behavior will not be allowed in any form. Anyone who treats others with disrespect and contempt will be warned and if it continues they will be blocked from the group. If I find that a member has joined simply to cause discord they will be warned if they do not stop they will be immediately un-subbed from the group. While I am open to discussion I consider debating to be an exercise of futility, where differences are never correctly discussed or settled. The most important issue is to treat each other in this group as the body of Moshiach with utmost of respect and love. As a group I am simply asking that we avoid quarrels, rude and disrespectful behavior, and conflicts that only cause hurt. Sometimes in this group we will just have to agree to disagree. One day our Moshiach Yahushua will return and straighten us all out however until then let love be our guide in all things toward one anther.
John 13:34-35
A renewed command I give to you, that you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all know that you are My taught ones, if you have love for one another.”
2Timothy 2:14-15
Remind them of this, earnestly witness- ing before the Master, not to wage verbal battles – which is useless – to the over- throwing of the hearers. Do your utmost to present yourself approved to Elohim, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the Word of Truth.
3. When submitting a post about head covering state your position with scripture historical facts, Jewish and Christian Commentaries, early church documents, Messianic writings, established traditions etc. Although you may not use all of these please use as many references and information as possible to verify your position. If you post a blog then please be willing to answer any questions, with kindness, love, and patience, that may arise because of what you have posted. Whether you are submitting a post or answering let love be your guide.
4. In the Discussion Forum area a number of subjects will be posted and some have already been addressed, concerning the head covering issue. Please take some time to read these articles that have been posted.
Toda raba for your cooperation, patience, and understanding over the past months as I have been recovering. You are a great group of women and I am honored to have you be apart of this group.
Shalom v’brachot b’shem Yahushua
Sister Lilly
Here are some definitions that will clarify what I consider Discussion vs Debate:
Synonyms: discuss, argue, debate, dispute, contend (All verbs)
although each word listed below is used to reach agreements, convince others of their point, and ascertain truth however the motive, reasoning, and way used to achieve this result is vastly different.
DISCUSS- close examination of a subject with interchange of opinions
ARGUE- 1.quarrel, dispute, fight, disagree, bicker, squabble 2. In a legal court case -emphasizes the presentation of facts and reasons in support of a position opposed by others
DEBATE- to engage in an argument of opposing opinions, to fight or quarrel, contest, which can be public or private.
DISPUTE- implies differences of opinion and usually sharp argument
TO CONTEND-is to strive in debate or controversy. In another aspect we are to earnestly contend -We are to contend earnestly for the faith as in Jude 3
Antagonistic- Contesting; combative